‘Amber Heard is a sociopathic show pony’

One of Johnny Depp’s closest friends believes Amber Heard is “a sociopathic show pony” determined to destroy the star.

Gina Deuters – who is the wife of Depp’s longtime business partner and assistant Stephen Deuters – sat front row at the actor’s rambunctious 15-month marriage to Heard, claiming he is the real victim amid their ongoing legal battle.

In her only interview since she was forced to step down from the witness stand, Deuters told Page Six exclusively that she believes Heard thrives on drama.

“There was one thing Amber said at the wedding. She leaned in slightly and said, “Do you and Stephen ever fight?” I replied, “We argue sometimes,” and she said, “No, Gina, like fighting for real?” And it was quite nerve-wracking. [I thought]’Do you like it?’” recalls Deuters, who has known Depp for almost 20 years.

“I think there’s a part of Amber that” [believes] fighting is passion. It means there are sparks, fireworks [in the relationship]† [Amber] is someone who is always used to getting what she wants. She has every right and I think she has set high standards for their divorce.”

Johnny Depp with his assistant and longtime business partner Stephen Deuters and his wife Gina on a red carpet.
Deuters, pictured here on a 2020 red carpet with Depp and husband Stephen, has known the actor for nearly 20 years.
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Echoing Depp’s allegations at trial, Deuters claimed, “When? [Amber] was denied those demands, I have a feeling she was like, ‘I’m not getting what I want, so I’m going to destroy you.’”

Deuters told us that her husband first called Heard “a sociopathic show pony” after he unknowingly became the mediator in Depp and Heard’s marriage in its last rough days.

“My husband called her a sociopathic show pony, and he certainly doesn’t regret it,” she explained. “Stephen was literally the mediator in the end…no one else wanted to hang out with Amber, and Stephen would be the only person she could talk to.”

Depp, 58, is currently in court and is suing Heard, 36, for a 2018 Washington Post op-ed she wrote, in which she called herself a victim of sexual assault. Although the actress did not mention Depp by name in the piece, the “Pirates of the Caribbean” star claims it has tarnished his reputation and career.

Johnny Depp and Amber Heard attend the premiere of their movie "The Rum Diary" in 2011.
Depp and Heard at the London premiere of “The Rum Diary” in 2011. The former couple previously said they first met during the press tour for the film.
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Deuters recently took the stand in Depp’s defense but was not given a chance to give her full evidence before the jury in Virginia because her testimony was expunged from the file.

She was ordered to leave court on April 14 after Heard’s journalist friend Eve Barlow intervened and Deuters admitted to the judge that she had seen clips of the trial online.

Speaking to Page Six, Deuters described Depp’s time with Heard as “less of a relationship and more of an Amber invasion.”

“She immediately started moving her friends to his properties,” she said. “It was pretty shocking how she ended up isolating him from his family and friends…it really felt like we kind of lost him.”

Deuters told us she initially thought Heard was “cold” and was surprised at her behavior.

Johnny Depp and Amber Heard with their arms around each other at the 2016 Grammy Awards.
Depp and Heard at the Grammys in February 2016. Just three months later, Heard filed for divorce because she was a victim of domestic violence.

“When they first got together I would describe her as a ‘Stepford woman’. She would bake cookies and take off his shoes after work. It was all very strange,” she recalls.

“Knowing that Amber was this confident feminist, it was strange that she behaved quite submissively, like a nice little housewife-like role. [But] that was all in the beginning – that would change pretty quickly.”

In 2015, Deuters and her husband helped arrange both of the weddings between Depp and Heard. The two tied the knot at the Los Angeles home of Depp’s late mother Betty Sue, followed by a ceremony on his private island in the Bahamas in 2015.

†[Amber was] absolutely controlling… the whole marriage was rushed,” claimed Deuters. “It all happened so quickly, to the point where, frankly, Johnny’s family was not notified and some of them couldn’t make it in time.”

Of the event in the Bahamas, Deuters said it “felt very much” like a takeover.

“It was the Amber Heard party as opposed to their wedding. I remember her father giving a speech and gesturing around the area [of the island], and said something like, ‘Look, honey, this is all yours now,’ she recalled. “My heart sank a little… were they more excited about all the wealth they married, or was this about love?”

Amber Heard looks emotional as she testifies in court at her defamation trial with Johnny Depp.
Heard gave emotional testimony in court last week about her alleged abuse by Depp.
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“If you see a friend or loved one move into a relationship that you personally don’t think is healthy for him, it’s hard because you can’t exactly stop him,” Deuters continued.

“It was heartbreaking over the years to see him deteriorate physically and emotionally. Then at the very end he was very upset by the breakdown of his marriage. He has suffered greatly.”

Deuters insisted to Page Six that she has never seen Depp act aggressively towards a woman, saying: “I’ve been with him when he was drinking, taking drugs and smoking weed, and his behavior hasn’t gotten mean at all. I still have him. never see him lose his temper.”

Describing the actor as a ‘dear friend’, she continued: ‘Their relationship was unstable anyway, but I just know Johnny wouldn’t hit a woman.

“I can sleep at night knowing that I support my boyfriend. I definitely feel that he has been a victim of domestic violence and that he deserves justice.”

Johnny Depp testifies in court at the Fairfax County Circuit Courthouse in Fairfax, Virginia on April 25, 2022.
“I just know Johnny wouldn’t hit a woman,” Deuters said, speaking to Page Six.
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In previous testimonials, Heard vividly described her alleged abuse by Depp. The actress sobbed as she described everything from Depp’s alleged threats to kill her to “cavity examinations” and several sexual assault encounters.

Heard is expected to take the stand again on Monday for cross-examination. A spokesperson for the actress declined to comment.

Meanwhile, according to Deuters, Depp does not regret the process.

“Yeah, it’s like opening old wounds. But the fight to clear his name is ultimately for his children, no matter how painful and ugly it may be,” she explains. “He’s here [in the UK] right now we saw him… and I can already see that a weight has been lifted off his shoulders after he gave his testimony.”

She added: “Now I understand why he wanted the cameras; so that the public can hear him and others speak directly about their experiences. He finally feels like his voice has been heard and that means a lot to him.”

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